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#1 Posted : Friday, 20 April 2012 4:04:09 PM(UTC)
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Could you please explain how you sort your data? Currently looking at high schools
in the Brisbane area. When looking at the top schools listing for OP in QLD it
seems to list Narangba Valley State School at second best in the state, yet when
looking at the top secondary schools number 2 is Brisbane Grammar. This seems to be
condridctory information - or at the very least confusing the issue of better
schools based on academics.
Can you please explain in detail how the list for OP results in Queensland is
formulated? The details provided on the page are not sufficent to clarify why the list is created that way.

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#2 Posted : Friday, 20 April 2012 4:15:47 PM(UTC)
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Based on English and Maths test results of year 9 and year 7, we give high schools ratings. The competition of these tests are not as strong as Year 12 exams. Also these results are less important than Year 12 results to some degree. This is the reason that we use the term rating instead of ranking here.

 

School rankings are based on schools' year 11 & 12 overall student achievement results such as VCE, HSC, QCE/OP/IBD, WACE, SACE, TCE and NTCE while high school ratings are based on English and Maths test results of year 9 and year 7 (if applicable). They are different measure of school's academic performance. One measurement gives the relative position (rank) and the other produces the state overall score for each school. The state overall score is not a rank although it can be converted to a ranking position. So there can be discrepancy between the school ranking and rating. The school’s resources, teachers (skills, experience and dedication), students’ further effort and parents’ support during year 10, 11 & 12 can contribute to a big discrepancy between the ranking and the rating.

 

In your case, QLD OP/IBD ranking is based on schools' OP/IBD results (year 11 and 12) while the high school ranking is based on English and Maths results (year 9).

 

Please visit http://bettereducation.com.au/Results/QCE_OP.aspx for the details of the OP/IBD ranking criteria which located at the top of the page.

 

See also Please explain the column state overall score in school rating and How are "stars" and scores accurately tabulated?

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It is a bit confuse to understand whether Aspely High is a good school or not. One is in your rating 8 just after Mansfield and before Kenmore, another is only 83, behind many high school in your rating. Could you help us to understand what does all these mean, and whether it is a good high academically or not? Just not as straight forward as Brisbane, Kenmore, Mansfield, Kelvin Grove, The Gap which all seems good school. Not sure whether we should send our child to Aspley or Private school or not.
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1. The State Overall Score of 83 on the secondary school rating page means top (100-83)*2.5%=43% among all schools in the state. Please visit http://bettereducation.c...-school-rating.aspx#2576 for more information.

 

2. The 8th rank on the year 12 results QP/IBD ranking page means the 8th position among the government schools in the state.

 

3. a) The State Overall Score and ranking position are different values; b) difference in the scope / school sector: all vs government schools; c) Item 1 measures primary and secondary school results (except year 12 results) while item 2 measures year 12 outcome only.

 

For more information, please visit other posts in this topic.

 

 

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I am a bit confused about the ranking of the high school in NSW from your web site. According to the Top Schools list, some schools with higher State overall results are placed in a lower rank from the list in School Rankings under HSC 2013 results. Why is that? Which one should I refer to?

 

e.g. St. George Christian School in Hurstville with 96 State Overall Results but ranked in 197 which is much lower than Marist College Kogarah with State Overall Result at 89 but ranked at 105 from HSC 2013 result.

 

 

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HSC ranking and secondary school rating are difference measures of academic results. See below for details.

 

For many parents, (year 12) HSC results weigh more because 1) it's year 12 outcome; 2) it's the outcome from more subjects than just English and Maths.

 

I hope the above discussion can help you understand the discrepancy.

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